When the plain sense makes sense, seek no other sense (most of the time). I hope some people history werent written in the Bible and Cain havent married to his sister. and he married one of those triplet sisters. Unfortunately human species also became one among the fallen. that intercourse between such close relatives was specifically forbidden.Leviticus 18:9, 17, 24. We need to stop taking the bible literally and look at it more metaphorically. CAN ANY HUMAN IMAGEN JEHOVAH GOD TO CONCLUSSION? WHEN our father Adam saw that his end was near, he called his son Seth, who Yet a careful analysis of Genesis reveals that the matters presented there are far from clear. Agriculture has been going on for at least 20,000 years. to the fountain of Lamneth. April 07, 2022. world into believing the bible is about them when it isnt. Notice that Abraham married his half sister with no condemnation from God, even though this was later forbidden. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8117915.stm, Modern Culture Over 40,000 Yrs. Of course, neschamah means spirit of knowledge, but in the meaning of to realize, not to know. If we believe that Genesis depicts a true account of creation, then we must believe the very first man and woman created were Adam and Eve. Easy to find on a map. There were def other for the lack of a better term, people on the earth then besides Adam eve Cain and Abel. This was possible in those days because 1) God allowed . days drew near. Natural reproduction is both a coefficient and a product of evolution. So Cains wife was already a mother or he wouldnt have referred to her as a cow. People in the ancient Near East typically stayed close to home, which affected their perception of the world. Hi Lilith, If we add some other group of people not descended from Adam and Eve, the entire story of the Tree of Knowledge and Tree of Life and the 7 day creation and Adams longing for a helpmeet which is then made from his side becomes nonsensical. There was a city in Nod, people had to build it, it didnt just happen and Cain was concerned that someone would kill him, so there were more people around. But geneticists, by tracing the DNA patterns found in people throughout the world, have now identified lineages . He then encounters a widow who is still a virgin because , although being married seven times her husbands were all killed by an evil spirit on the wedding night. Yes, you are right that Genesis 2:7 does not technically say formed FROM the dust, but that is the overall implied meaning. When one looks at Genesis 5:4,5 points out that Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters, and Adam lived for 930 years. This state might be described as a partial legacy of the Garden of Eden, pointing to the first love which God had originally intended for the first couple he created in Paradise. Because these stories were the stories of old women (1Tim 4:7) and had no place being taught in the first century congregation. If the Bible is silent on a topic it was either know by everyone and was insignificant to pass on or God deemed it unimportant to reveal to His prophets. Third, the Bible says man is not to live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. Im sorry, but I do not understand most of what you wrote. DO NOT FOLLOW Free your mind. Which says that Cain married his own twin sister. (It was from this line that Cain took his wife from the land of Nod. That doesn't mean that this book is true. Did agriculture begin in Paradise (Gen. 2:15) or after the expulsion? There already has been an exegetical separarion between the preadamites and Adam long before someone mentioned the word evolution at all. Cain is worried about someone finding and killing him, so God gives him a protective mark. There are many more verses dealing with the divine breath. zakar & neqebah), which come about at the same time and in unknown number, the paradise story means the arising of two individuals, one man and one woman (isch & ischah). Douglas McCain, 58; Andrew McCain, 56; Sidney McCain, 51; Meghan McCain, 33. Thanks to a find in Israel just last week, we know that modern or Cro-Magnon man is a full 50,000 years older than we thought. 1:5, where it descripts the arising of Jeremia. Others, including in Moses line, where they are 6-9, even 13 generations apart. Did Cain have children? Instead it was a foreign woman and nothing more mentioned. It is the instinctive power of feeling and action needed to sustain the body (Essential Papers on Kabbalah, by Lawrence Fine, p.120). If we compare the description of the land of Eden with recent research of the middle east, during the last ice age, we find a match. My Chinese friend, a civil engineer there who was raised atheist & became an ardent follower of Jesus & Bible student after her wakening experience with Him followed by a vivid dream of Him summoning her to faith, had no problem with this question. An important factor that contributes to this mindset is geography. (5) Afterward, Cain had intercourse with his wife in the land of Fugitiveness.Genesis 3:20; 4:3, 12, 14-17. Adam had many children, so marriage was not a problem as mutations only appeared in the time of Leviticus 18:6 (2500 year later) where God prohibited inter-family relations. There were already humans on the earth. There is a saying that if it aint broke. IF YOU SAYCAIN GOT HIS WIFE FROM NOD TOWN OR VILLAGEREMEMBER-GOD CREATED ADAM IN HIS LIKNESS & IMAGE THEN FROM SAME ADAM GOD MADE EVE. Of course, Noahs flood was local. Facts before speculation. Nowhere does the Bible say that a day IS a thousand years. This is a very disapointing take on the biblical account. The narrative continues in Genesis 4 with Cain settling in the land of Nod and having children with his wife. The point isnt that Adam and Eve are the ultimate first agriculturalists ever, but the first biblically recorded ones. The Bible reminds us that we return to dust when we die. There is no clear biblical evidence to support the view that Cain and Abel may have been twins. Report, October 22 2014 So sin and death, cos death is a reaction to action, a consequence of sin must be older than Adam, because the serpent must have fallen first. Other Jewish traditions F4 mention that Cain and Abel were born with twin sisters and that Cain's twin sister F5 was not that beautiful and that this was part of the dispute between Cain and Abel, who had a prettier wife/twin sister. So, there is no indication of people beyond his family. Eve had cain and azura than abel and awan. These forces, of course, are invisible. The Bible is clear there is but one, the human race. The Gulf has receded since then leaving Ur well inland. Lets explore these two points. We dont blind ourselves to indisputable facts. Gen 2:4-11:32 is the origins of Adams tribe, not the whole humankind. Gen. 3:23 So the Lord God sent him from (min) the garden of Eden, to work the ground (adamah) that he had been taken (laqach) from (min). That is the context. Scientists look everywhere but up or where they should. That would imply that there was something God couldnt do, wrong. Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, and Cain a worker of the ground. The preadamites were transient hunters-gatherers. http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/who-was-cains-wife. Cains wifes name in a more sure manner. https://www.academia.edu/10440502/Cosmogonies_and_Theogonies. Well for all men to have 'inherited' death there would have to be just 1 Adam right? How could Cain have married an aunt when there were no women of Eves generation: neither Adam or Eve had a sister. The Bible does not say how old Cain was when he killed Abel ( Genesis 4:8 ), but they both were likely full-grown adults. Report, October 28 2014 From the dust refers to Adams material texture, while the verb jatzar refers to the emerging from the womb. He is like the beasts that perish (Psalm 49:13) (p.780). You try to reinterpret Genesis 2:7 by using Jeremiah 1:5. But the fact that Cains ultimate fate is not described means only that it was irrelevant to the basic story and thus omitted. Adam and his offspring was a new creation. Any other human beings would have had to come from the sexual relation of Adam and Eve. This very example sufficiently shows, how much the proponents of the traditional exegesis have to bend the biblical texts to continue harping on their string. Agriculture even began before Adam and Eve, 10,000 ago. If your spirit is not ready to receive the message you will not receive. Fascinated by idea! Why does BAR continually post heretical articles? Here is your ticket to join us as we discover more and more about the biblical world and its people. Seven times seventy times. Abel. And we do know that girls/ daughter/sisters are rarely named. I find it amazing that people get so caught up in religious teachings that they dont even want to hear what someone else has to say or accept solid scientific facts. Consider that the word Adam means something other than a physical man and Eve also has another meaning past a name.. One thing that always puzzled me is how Cain got a wife? And in the first year of the first week of the fifth jubilee, houses were built on the earth, and Cain built a city, and called its name after the name of his son Enoch. They, like the first couple, were also formed together as one body and then became two. This is the meaning of But man does not remain in honor. And Cain said to god Am I brothers keeper. VIII, pg. He reveals certain mysteries of life. It is only in Genesis 2 chapter 7 Then God took some soil from the ground and formed a man.. Analog to this, there were no circumscribed fields, but the humans gathered fruits, cabbage, seed and whathaveyou (Gen. 1.28). These oral traditions were blended with well know stories and written material borrowed from the regions dominant Mesopotamian culture. Their professions According to the Biblical text, Abel was a shepherd. He said that Genesis 5:4 referred to Seths daughters. If so, you might want to check out Genesis 1:2 which uses a waw disjunctive. Check out Who Was Adam? by Dr. Rana. Lilith, God commanded humanity to be fruitful and multiply (Genesis 1:28; 9:1) and thus it was necessary to marry ones own relative. We dont hear about them, except in passing in Genesis 5, because they arent part of a story like Cain and Abel were. Where did all these people in Nod come from if Adam and Eve are the original people created? The worldwide flood destroyed everyone as confirmed in 2 Peter 2 and 3, so comparing the pre-flood civilizations to modern near east cultures that ignore distant settlements is in either disingenuous or ignorant. Who did Cain marry? Chapter VIII. Ellery Kathleen McWhorter. Abraham in Gen 22:2). If God wanted us to know. 3 When Seth heard these words from his father Adam, he went from him, shed WHY DID MARY LEITH ASK SUCH A POINTLESS QUESTION WHEN THE ANSWER IS CLEARLY IN GENESIS 5; 3-4? Not according to the law in Eden, but according the law God made for the heavens. So he is got got married to one of his sister. The same scenario was repeated after the flood since there were only 4 couples to repopulate the earth. We will quote Genesis 4:1-2 from the Authorized King James Version, the New American Standard Version and the New International Version. Mary Joan Winn Leith first explores the traditional Jewish and Christian answers that contend that the wife of Cain was another daughter of Adam and Eve. Are your uppercase letters supposed to lend credence to your intoxication and cultism brought on by your deep gulping of ancient Judaic mythology? Not a twin, a sibling. 2 And she again bare his brother Abel. As far as dating Adam, there is no way to limit gaps in the genealogies. But there is most possible, Adam was not the first humanoid, or that all the diversities of animals fit into one small place not very long ago. And the majority doesnt count, as well. Thus, these are the same two humans in both chapters of Genesis. 1 The man had intercourse with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain, saying, "I have produced a male child with the help of the LORD." * 2 Next she gave birth to his brother Abel. That she describes Moses, who certainly carried the scrolls of Israelite history with him and redacted the book of Genesis from it as storyteller shows that she is basically grasping at straws. By modern legal definition, Cain would have had to commit incest with one of his sisters in order to create offspring because he had no other choice. So God tells Cain that he should change his ways. It teaches that Adam came from actual dust and that breath of life is breathing Ch. Why did Cain then kill Abel? He took his sister along with him certainly. To continue, this is why the Adamic blood line, through Seth, had to remain unmixed all the way down to Jesus who was the Christ. I hope some people history werent written in the Bible and Cain havent his sister. 7 Then Enos grew up, married, and begat Cainan. And then the created erets translated as Earth. MediaPunch Inc/Alamy Stock Photo. @ dean, The modern misconception that educated Europeans at the time of Columbus believed in a flat Earth, and that his voyages refuted that belief, has been referred to as the Myth of the Flat Earth. To say, as you did earlier, that erets and adamah cannot or do not equate is ridiculous (see Genesis 7:21-23, 8:7-8, 13 and 9:2, etc.). She is Nymph . To answer this question isnt difficult at all. Does God gives us political leaders or do we vote them by choice? By the way, I looked at the Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, Brown, Driver, Briggs, Hebrew and English Lexicon and Holladay, Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the OT. These are highly respected sources. Vote Up It is this evidence (largely found in a series of events and dialogues recorded in the Book of Genesis which, it is proposed, has been somewhat neglected or overlooked in biblical scholarship) that is examined in this book. This is usually because of societal taboos or fear of genetic defects. John Sidney McCain IV, 32. When He created Adam and Eve He formed Adam from the ground and Breathed His God breath or His Spirit into Adam, and of course it was automatically transfered into Eve when she took her first breath. (Mark 6:20). What is the meaning of the parable of the rich man and his manager? PS: The expulsion from Paradise refers to the Neolithic passage from hunter-gatherers to agriculturalists. But, earlier you said: There was no suffering. It does not on its own mean out of nothing. Acts 4:12. Adam and Eve were procreating long befor the fall(be fruitful and multiply) First a couple of internal contradictions in what you wrote: Yet my eyes are drawn toward 4. I know Jewish sources are not the Word of God, but you said that old Hebrews would laugh at the idea of humans being made out of dust or mud. G-d rested on the 7th Daythe first Sabbath. If we look at shapes of men and women we see a major difference in them. All humans are descendants of Adam and Eve. Four highly acclaimed books, published in conjunction with the Smithsonian Institution: Aspects of Monotheism, Feminist Approaches to the Bible, The Rise of Ancient Israel and The Search for Jesus. Then Cain kills Abel as Seth kills Osiris I wont call you names or run down your faith. This may cause problems when matching pairs are inherited from both parents, as is much more likely with close intermarriage. Organized religion can make millions of people believe the earth is flat and kill those who disagree. DNA and genes can tell alot about living and dead organisms. Neither does it provide any other information about her. Yes, Cain and Abel did have sisters. The normal literal sense of scripture is always the best way to understand scripture unless the text in question otherwise demands . The more insular a community is, the more prevalent certain diseases will be. There were no other people on earth at that time. some of the things written in the bible can be understood just like that. Next up, the animal souls (Gen. 1.21) and last but not least the human intelligence (NOT the human by itself (Gen. 1.26; asah means the preparation from preexisting material) and other human characteristics (image if God; Gen. 1.27). Adam suggested that the question should be settled by each one bringing an offering. Recent archaeological and genetic evidence reveals that interbreeding between genetic humans and neanderthals probably began to occur as recently as 50,000BC. After some 2,500 years of human history, however, when mankinds physical condition had greatly deteriorated, Jehovah gave to Israel laws forbidding incest.) These mistakes (harmful mutations) add up only after a long period of time. http://www.scriptural-truth.com/PDF_Apocrypha/Second Book of Adam and Eve.pdf So Adam said to his son Seth, I wish, 0 my son, that thou wed thy sister His bloodline ended with the flood. Reading carefully the Genesis in Hebrew, we have to point out that God says to the earth (aretz) to produce all the living creatures (1:24) which has to include mankind. Are there other people outside of Eden? So, Cain married either one of his sisters or one of his nieces, but the word "twin" is not written in Genesis 4:17--24. Note that beginning in Chapter 2 it talks first of God resting from his creative works, then in verse 4 it says that these are the generations, or history, of the heavens and earth in the day that they were created and then it basically goes on to describe the creation Adam and how Eve was produced from Adams rib. Somehow Moses knew what the land looked like at least 16,000 years before he was born. Why do people who dont even believe that there was a literal person name Cain care about who he married? Its the Interface between the 6. and the 7. none of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him (Leviticus 18:6). Cain had a twin sister, The answer is its impossible. the Bible doesnt give us the information of it because its God minded not to reveal the secret. I misunderstood your reference to the idea of a flat earth. Likewise, human population numbers increased, leaving behind more evidence. 5 So Adam married him to Aklia. He was supposed to have stayed young forever and not grow old and die. Don Stewart. After her husband's death in 1981, Mrs. McCain and her identical twin sister, Rowena, took long driving trips through Europe, the Middle East and Asia. 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